Rethinking the Retirement Manifesto


With so many blogs, coaches and gurus telling you how to retire early, it’s no surprise that many are following the footsteps of those who have already done it. And all these stories have the same steps in common: live below your means, pay off debt like crazy, saving and invest the rest, hit your target number and live the rest of your life comfortable while withdrawing a certain amount of money each year.

Sounds simple. Their focus is on analyzing how much wealth you have to accumulate in order to quit the 9 to 5. When you hit that target, you have enough to retire early. Your accumulated wealth will last a lifetime when keeping your lifestyle at the same level. Within the FIRE community, this is a very common mindset, which is often referred to as the ‘regular’ FIRE approach.

And if this is the ‘regular’ approach, are there any others? Well, thanks for asking. Because yes, there are. You have the Lean FIRE and Fat FIRE ‘movement’. People who’ve set up a different set of rules that deviate a bit from the status quo of FIRE.

As in all journeys, everything is personal. So when the FIRE concept is growing out of its start-up phase, people are altering the standard to meet their own needs. The ten steps to early retirement don’t fit everyone anymore. Instead, personalization comes into play, and people figure out new ways to get there. Don’t just copy the story of somebody else, make your own story instead.

I won’t tell you how to do it. I just want to make you think about what is possible, what’s beyond what we already know and give you a different voice on Financial Independence and Early Retirement.

The Retirement Manifesto

Live below your means
adapt to a frugal way of living

Eliminate all debt
pay of that student loan/mortgage

Save as much as possible
boost that savings rate

Invest your money
let the compounding work its magic

Set up an FI target
and plan your way to early retirement

Repeat and continue
until you hit that target.

Retire early
and live life comfortably

The race to retirement

If you’re sick and tired of working your job, you probably want to retire as soon as possible. You will save everything you can and diminish your spending as much as possible. The less you need and/or want, the sooner you’ll get there. And thinking in ways like choosing between ‘spending money or retire a day earlier’ might be your biggest focus. This is the basis mindset of many FIRE people, and many who think like this will get there eventually.

What would you rather do?

Would you rather retire one year earlier? Or buy a motorcycle instead?

Do you use travel hacking to lower your spending? Or do you skip the hassle with all the different credit cards?

Are you going to buy a big, or small home to live in?

Looking for ways to save on everything? Or don’t mind spending a bit more here and there?

The sane choice would be to choose the money over material items. Mostly because consumerism and (most) material things don’t give as much value to your life as financial independence would do. Essentially, you prioritize quitting your paycheck-to-paycheck life over having a new car. This sounds simple. But looking at how many people who do the exact opposite, it’s actually very hard. And I have the deepest respect for the people who are working hard to accomplish these kinds of goals.

To speed up the process to FIRE, you can make use of life hacks, travel hacks or whatever-you-want-to-hacks to alter your daily life into a smarter way of living. The mindset you need to achieve this is about the realization that owning stuff isn’t all there is to life. You have to create a mindset where you are content and happy with the simpler things in life. Restructure what gives you joy and what makes a meaningful life for you. You live a decent and frugal life without giving up too much. Others might look at it as a life without having fun, but you know better. Spending more time with your children and family will give you the most joy, not a shiny car on the driveway.

Although we probably all have a similar mindset and using the same methods to get there. I couldn’t stop thinking that some parts of this road aren’t the ones I want to follow. For example, paying off debt just isn’t a priority for me. I can easily become financially independent while still having debt. After circulating around in this community for about a year now, I’ve come upon reading about the different types of FIRE.

The three FIRE categories (and mine)

The Lean FIRE folks are willing to eat rice and beans for weeks if that means they can save more money. It’s very blatantly said, but it’s often looked at it that way by others. They give up more than the ‘regular’ FIRE followers and are willing to live really far below their means to make it happen. I believe their objective is to ease into a more slim down life during the journey, to get there as soon as possible. Still maintaining a frugal life, they have time on their side very fast. This is not our way to get there. But if you have a really shitty job and no other place to go, it might be the only way out of it.

The definition of Regular FIRE  is establishing a certain (frugal) lifestyle. By cutting cost and reducing debt, you will need less overall wealth to become financially independent. And as soon as you hit your target, you could quit your job, and live a comfortable life in resemblance of the lifestyle you have already set for yourself. Money isn’t everything, and you can be perfectly happy with living below your means.

The common explanation of Fat FIRE is that you follow much of the regular way, but will have a fat bank account waiting for you when you retire. Often by working longer after hitting your FI target. You will have more than enough to last within your early retirement. At least that is the common perception of it. Because how much is ‘more than enough’?

To put it to numbers (as a couple), lean peeps will be doing great while only spending 20.000 euro a year, regular folks will be needing around 35.000 euro and the Fat FIRE followers will be wanting around 80.000 euro as income per year. These numbers are different for everybody, but it loosely describes the gaps between the three different types of FIRE.

My personal definition of FIRE is the following:

Focus on (multiple) passive income streams over growing net worth. Often using creative ways to build more income in a shorter time range as well as investing for the long term. My lifestyle adapts over time and over the years I want to have the possibility to spend more than currently possible. While still having the freedom of spending time & money how I want to.

As you can notice, my definition of FIRE focuses far more on the journey part, then on the early retirement part. That is, partly, because we are not ready to retire early, yet. And I don’t see the need to get there as soon as possible as well. We like to work, for now. We would rather quit working when we feel it’s right, then just because we hit a magical target.

Even better yet, we aren’t focusing at all on our target. But have a slightly different view on our withdrawal plan.

Rethinking our why

We have a different approach than many that I’ve read about in the blogging community as it comes to our financial resources in early retirement. As we are not aiming to withdraw our money using the safe withdrawal rate method. This makes our definition of Fat FIRE a bit different as well. We have no target, no number to achieve FI and certainly no focus on aiming to have just enough. We are building wealth, like many of you. But instead of withdrawing our money in the future, direct cash flow is going to pay our bills.

Our definition of Fat FIRE doesn’t only cover to have more wealth than needed for early retirement but to want more than needed in order to live a richer life than we do now. We can deflate our lifestyle a bit in the build-up phase, without penny-pinching. We will spend more in one category, and save more in the other. We could retire early with a regular fire target number, but we would not be able to live the life we really would want to. So we choose to fatten up before we ditch the grind for good.

Because our goal is to have passive income to cover our expenses, we basically wouldn’t have to touch the principal. Meaning our a portfolio of stocks and Real Estate can continue to grow going onwards.

What we want to achieve with our wealth, however, is the same as many others: more freedom. We could travel more, read more, learn more and experience more out of life. Those are the riches of life we have yet to discover. Plus, I do want to own that motorcycle. I dream of building my own home one day. And I would love to travel in comfort to exotic places (but can’t make use of travel hacks from the NL). And I don’t want to wait to do this. Even if this means my FI date will be delayed.

In this definition, there is a clear distinction between what I need, and what I want. We are currently living a lifestyle level that works out for us at the moment. So, we don’t focus too much of our energy towards saving money anymore. Instead, we want to increase our income stream. In the meantime, we pick our battles on what we spend our money on. Like having a pretty ‘normal and expensive’ wedding, but still looking for promotions when I shop for groceries.

Saving money has become an inherent consequence of the lifestyle we have chosen. For example, we aim to eat healthily, and therefore we buy no soda & sweets, less meat & bread, and more fruits & veggies. Which, fortunately, saves us money as well. We focus what gives us meaning, and what we find important.

Choosing your own way

Not needing the income from depending on somebody else (a boss) is what equals the freedom in our FIRE journey, but even more so the freedom to do whatever we want with our time AND our money. If we would need to budget and balance every year in order to make things work, wouldn’t we still be depended on our own money? What is true freedom if you can only spend 4% of your wealth every year?

I don’t want to do things, just for the sake of saving money. But because I want to be deliberate about how I live my life. Living on a (small) budget feels to me like being trapped. And since my goal is to achieve more freedom in spending time on whatever I want. Why shouldn’t it be the same for spending money?

I fully acknowledge that not everybody starts with the same experience or mindset. That there are people who drown in debt, and who are better off to tackle that problem first. Or who found difficulties to maintain a job, let alone finding one you actually love. It’s not easy. And I hope that everyone struggling will have the opportunity to have a life that meets their standards.

My fortune was knowing to handle money at an early age. I never had to deflate my lifestyle just to keep things afloat. My lifestyle was already set up around a structure where saving money at the end the month was just the normal thing to do. I was also very fortunate that I found somebody to share my life with, having the same mindset. Our current lifestyle is almost the same as before we started our FI journey. We just started to earn more money, and therefore saving money was a merely a side-effect of the lifestyle we already had chosen for.

How I look at the FIRE journey is constantly shifting, but is now coming to a more stable mindset where I can really connect with. Reading all kinds of personal journeys of others, helped to shape my own standards, steps, and plan. Instead of following somebody else, I’m now creating my personal journey as well. Which is exactly what everybody else should do.

At the moment, the reasons why I feel more connected to Fat FIRE are the following:

  • Having a fat bank account where passive income is just gulping in
  • We still have our retirement fund and social security as income when we are older
  • Getting a job I like, and working longer – which isn’t very unrealistic
  • Quality over quantity, the ability to spend because saving isn’t always needed
  • Not worrying that spending money equals a delay in an early retirement

“The best way to predict your future is to create it”

– Abraham Lincoln

Describing what goes through your head isn’t always easy. I still have lots of thinking to do in how we want to lead our lives, but the above ‘manifesto’ is a great base to start from.

16 thoughts on “Rethinking the Retirement Manifesto

  1. I would classify myself as regular FIRE according to your definitions. Live comfortably frugal for now and FIRE ASAP. And most likely I will turn out to be Fat FIRE during retirement, as that is what statistics tell. Most people get richer while living on a safe withdrawal rate of 3.5-4%, chances are only small you have to stick to the 3.5-4% over retirement. Most likely you can afford some lifestyle inflation over time.


    • I think a little lifestyle inflation is something that will almost always happen as it lines in with ‘normal’ inflation as well. And it’s promising to see others FIRE and see their net worth growing still.


  2. I like your version in the sense that you focus on multiple streams of (passive) income. That sounds more futureproof than generating a set amount (which in my case would be an amount that sounds reasonable now, but will it be enough if I retire 30 years ‘early’?) and having that as your main focus. I wouldn’t want to retire early if that meant that I had to live extremely frugal for the rest of my life, so I would prefer to need less, make some passive income, maybe work when I want and on what I want, to make money so I don’t actually have to touch my savings. But I’ll save anyway, because when I need it for whatever, the money will be there.

    If that makes sense 🙂


    • It makes perfect sense, and in some way really defines the concept of having the freedom to what you want. I’m not shutting out working here and there as well, as long as I can get a certain energy off of it.


  3. Very interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing it!

    Our situation is somewhat different from yours, in that Mrs. ROMT and I are about 15 years older, with a single income, and two children. The idea of Fat FIRE sounds great, but unless I am willing to work another decade, it’s probably unrealistic.

    Our target falls somewhere between Regular FIRE and Fat FIRE. I am tracking our progress towards generating enough passive income to fully fund our expected lifestyle, but I do not expect to get there before we reach our definition of FIRE. That said, the higher our passive income number is, the better!


  4. Interesting. IT very much is a personal story. We’re probably closer to the fat fire, not willing to deny ourselves things to get ahead. Still we don’t want to waist money and will forever build to the next stage of life.


  5. What. An. Excellent. Post. Great minds think alike 😉

    I feel pretty much the same, my work is my hobby, so there is absolutely no need to stop at 40 or 45 or so. Besides that, taxes and regulations don’t really help here to achieve full FIRE. A parttime job which I like combined with a nice chunk of stash which give you a nice dividend income stream would be pretty awesome and much easier and tax-wiser.

    It’s totally different when you do a job you really don’t like. Also with a ‘low’ income you don’t really have the choice to go for fat-fire, you’d have to switch to rice & beans only to achieve a Lean-FIRE.. 😉


  6. Seems like a fourth FIRE might be worth naming. I’m fat fire by a large margin but I also haven’t taken a cent of earnings or principle from my investments in my first two years of retirement because I’m working a day or two a week and that covers 100% of my family’s spending. Because I think most people, and I can only speak for guys since I am one, get some self esteem from providing for their family, that they will be happier in retirement if they are still earning significant money rather than just collecting dividend checks and bond coupons. I don’t think most people get the same satisfaction from volunteer work that they do from paid work. So even people, like me, that have no earthly need for income still enjoy and benefit from earning it. My paid side gigs are somewhat entertaining but I would not do them unless they paid me the income they do. My half dozen volunteer side gigs that pay me nothing are very useful to the people I am able to help but they do not provide nearly the emotional satisfaction that my paid gigs do. I can’t imagine I’m that different. I don’t need to work five or six days a week, ten or twelve hours a week is plenty but it also is immensely rewarding to me for reasons I can’t really explain. I think FIRE with Earned Income is a real thing and probably is the best thing for a lot of us whether it is fat or lean fire.


  7. Nice article and good advice.

    I achieved FIRE about three years ago and then retired from my engineering career little over a year ago.

    For me, it was the determination and a very strong desire to become FI which made me do all the things you listed in your article and kept on track on my path to FIRE. It’s really about how badly one wants it that makes them go an extra length and keep them disciplined.


  8. Gosh, we are much leaner than I thought! 😉
    Any how, definitely agree that your personal circumstances and preferences affect how your journey towards FIRE changes over time.


  9. Wow, seriously good stuff. I really like the lean/regular/fat distinction. I like to think I’m leaning towards regular. But at times I find it hard to deny myself (or my family) comfortability. Still struggling with that. I think you are right on with your numbers, If your income is lower, the need for a lean lifestyle to get to FIRE is certainly more or less a necessity


  10. I think you hit one point on the head. It is all about finding what system works best for you. I’d like to say im in the regular FIRE category based on you description, but maybe I should work on defining what that means from my perspective too. I thought this was a great, insightful read and has me motivate to move closer and closer to FIRE!



  11. “-Our current lifestyle is almost the same as before we started our FI journey.
    -We just started to earn more money, and therefore saving money was a merely a side-effect of the lifestyle we already had chosen for.
    -How I look at the FIRE journey is constantly shifting, but is now coming to a more stable mindset where I can really connect with. Reading all kinds of personal journeys of others, helped to shape my own standards, steps, and plan.”

    Wow, are you my twin brother? Your words seem to came out straight of my mind!
    Well done! BTW, I went over “regular”, I aim for “fat cat” now 🙂 and job is a pleasure, still.


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